First off, this isn’t the first time this has happened.

October 27, 1995 Sniper kills 1, wounds 20 at military base

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kreutzer,_Jr.

Which isn’t surprising given the military’s continuing attitude toward that stuff.

VA Hid Suicide Risk, Internal E-Mails Show

AND the fact that this guy saw, first hand, how the military treats people coming back from the middle east.

Remember the Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal (link)?

THIS GUY WAS THERE

WHILE IT WAS

HAPPENING.

Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan’s room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses.

This is the world of Building 18, not the kind of place where Duncan expected to recover when he was evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center from Iraq last February with a broken neck and a shredded left ear, nearly dead from blood loss. But the old lodge, just outside the gates of the hospital and five miles up the road from the White House, has housed hundreds of maimed soldiers recuperating from injuries suffered in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Read more at: Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army’s Top Medical Facility

Second, what I’ve found says he’s Palestinian, not Jordanian, as is being widely reported..

Hasan is an American citizen of Palestinian descent and after the 9/11 attacks, his cousin says he was the target of constant harassment from others in the military. His tormentors called him a "camel jockey," said his cousin, Nader Hasan. He wanted out of the Army, so he paid back his military student loans and hired an attorney.

Nidal Malik Hasan, Suspected Fort Hood Shooter, Was Called "Camel Jockey" Fort Hood Shooting Suspect Harassed By Others In Military and Wanted Out, Family Said

And third, it looks like he was in BEFORE 9/11, but I can’t find a single US media source that directly said that. Every single one glosses over that fact.

And finally, do you see those links in that article?

In the original article, that word Palestinian is a link to another article...

Al Qaeda Leader Ridicules Obama Zawahiri’s New Video Shows Terrorist Group is "Worried," Expert Says

Wait...

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SHOOTING? Hell, Al Qaeda and the Palestinians aren’t the same people. Are they implying that they are, or that this guy was Al Qaeda?

And when you click on the 9/11 link, it goes to:

Secret Document: U.S. Fears Terror ’Spectacular’ Planned Official Cites Resemblance to Warnings and Intelligence Before 9/11

So now, this isn’t some random guy freaking out and shooting a bunch of people, this is part of some "Terror Spectacular"? WHAT?!?

THEY ARE LYING TO US AGAIN!!!

Is it any wonder that Americans STILL believe that Iraq had something to do with Al Qaeda and 9/11, when these jackoffs in the press are doing stuff like that?

Sep 6, 2003 - Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link

June 24, 2007 - Number of Americans who believe Saddam-9/11 tie rises to 41 percent

In spite of:

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11

Al Qaeda was NOT in Iraq before we invaded

Iraq war justifications laid bare

NO WMD’s in Iraq

Want to see the difference between our press and the rest of the world? This is what they’re saying overseas about this shooting:

Major Nidal Malik Hasan: Soldiers’ psychiatrist who heard frontline stories - Unhappy soldier who faced deployment to Iraq and did not want to see what his patients had described

You’ll notice that every link in the foreign story actually has something to do with the topic at hand.

Don’t misunderstand. If he did this, I believe he needs to hang.

But I’m really getting tired of the US Media lying to us about this stuff.

And I’m tired of the US Military not listening to these fucktards when they say they’re going to do shit like this.

For example:

US soldier charged with murders at Iraq combat stress clinic - Commanding officers had determined that the sergeant was a potential danger to himself or others.

Oh really? SO WHY THE FUCK WAS HE STILL OVER THERE?

Inequívoco Hussein Honrado wrote:
Second, what I’ve found says he’s Palestinian, not Jordanian, as is being widely reported..

You do realize just as many Palestinians live in Jordan as live in Israel

oh god...please...

Did this guy ever live in either place?

Because:

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, in July, Hasan worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

I’m wondering what those problems were and what this guy saw there that made him so fucking scared to deploy.

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army’s Top Medical Facility

They keep saying he didn’t want to deploy because of what he heard from his patients that did go there...

good post im stealing it.

William wrote:

Inequívoco Hussein Honrado wrote:

Second, what I’ve found says he’s Palestinian, not Jordanian, as is being widely reported..

You do realize just as many Palestinians live in Jordan as live in Israel

Actually the Majority of people in Jordan are either Palestinian or of Palestinian descent. And yes most Israeli Arabs also consider themselves Palestinian

It is interesting that he didn’t "go over the edge" until he finally reached a point in his career that he was going to have to deploy.

If there was a history of some sort of mental instability with this guy and the Army chose to ignore it or play it down, then, research back to who new and ignored his problems should be done and some people court martialed.

I was discharged from the Military for turning the fire hose on in the female barracks. --just sayin’


I suppose he was allowed to remain in because he was an officer. A crazy officer. A crazy odd acting in need of supervision officer. Sounds normal for military officers. --just sayin’

T A Zorek wrote:
I was discharged from the Military for turning the fire hose on in the female barracks. --just sayin’

HAAHAHHAHAHA

Inequívoco Hussein Honrado wrote:
Did this guy ever live in either place?



Because:



On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

From what I’ve read it sounds like his parents were Palestinians living in the West Bank (maybe as yellow-card or green-card citizens but who knows) then moved to the US before he was born.

Either way, just because he is Palestinian or Jordanian doesn’t mean that he was not a follower of Al-Queda just because Al-Queda is not formally associated with the PLO. Anyone, Palestinian, Jordanian, American, whatever, can embrace the teachings and practices of Al-Queda or otherwise be sympathetic to their cause.

I know that nut-job Lieberman is calling this an act of terrorism, but it really seems like a microcosm of our ’we reap what we sow’ policies.

If you were ever curious as to what drives our enemies against us... look to the Major & feel for the war stories he endured, the empathy toward his fellow people of the faith, the frustration of an undefined goal, the futility of opposing views in our military.

Something else I don’t understand about this...

Authorities have not identified a motive in Thursday’s attack that left 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/09/fort.hood.shootings/

How the hell did he shoot 55 people by himself?

He’s a shrink, not a sniper.

So either he reloaded several times, the people he shot were herded into a little box like cattle, or he’s the best damn shooter I’ve ever heard of.

I don’t think it’s the cattle thing because they said:

"The Fort Hood office of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command is seeking any military or civilian personnel who may have left the scene ... with gunshot damage such as damaged privately owned vehicles, personnel clothing, etc., " investigators said in a written statement. "CID is also seeking any military or civilian personnel who may have inadvertently left the scene of this incident with material that could be used as firearms residue related evidence such as shell casings inside the boot, etc."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/09/fort.hood.shootings/

You don’t usually park cars inside small Army buildings, so that’s probably not it.

And if he was reloading several times, these are military people, they didn’t have time in between reloads to either get the fuck away or do something about it? Even the Columbine kids took action during a reload. Special forces rangers wouldn’t?

I don’t understand. This doesn’t make sense to me.

Royal Hussein T wrote:

Either way, just because he is Palestinian or Jordanian doesn’t mean that he was not a follower of Al-Queda just because Al-Queda is not formally associated with the PLO. Anyone, Palestinian, Jordanian, American, whatever, can embrace the teachings and practices of Al-Queda or otherwise be sympathetic to their cause.

But being Palestinian doesn’t imply you ARE a follower either, as the US press seems to continuously suggest.

Some Palestinians work for Mossad.

Terrorism is NOT genetic.

Another amazing thing:

The first responders were civilian police?! Excuse me, but this is a military base; right? Military people (several thousand) who could not address an attack within their walls?

Imagine if the US was under attack. What does this tell the world?