Anything wrong with conducting a wedding inside a church building? And what about having a reception held there?

No one going to comment on this question???

Kurt?

I woulnd’t think so. Its just a building...

DueceGoose wrote:
No one going to comment on this question???



Kurt?

I don’t oppose a wedding, but I would the "reception" and the reason for this can be clearly seen in my current ongoing debate at

http://garnerjonesdebate.wordpress.com/


When I was married, we did not have, nor want our wedding in the building, and I do question the wisdom of having a wedding there though I don’t think it is unscriptural.


I don’t think at this time that I will get too involved in a discussion of it here, as it is so closely related to what I am currently debating. I think most of the arguments would be the same and so, my position can be seen in the debate. But also, I don’t know if its a great idea to argue the same points I may make in the coming weeks in the debate here.


However, the reason I don’t make an issue regarding weddings or funerals in the building (though I do not and would not have mine there) is because of what takes place in the funeral or wedding. There is generally singing of spirtual songs, and a sermon is preached from the Bible.

Kurt wrote:

DueceGoose wrote:

No one going to comment on this question???





Kurt?

I don’t oppose a wedding, but I would the "reception" and the reason for this can be clearly seen in my current ongoing debate at



http://garnerjonesdebate.wordpress.com/





When I was married, we did not have, nor want our wedding in the building, and I do question the wisdom of having a wedding there though I don’t think it is unscriptural.





I don’t think at this time that I will get too involved in a discussion of it here, as it is so closely related to what I am currently debating. I think most of the arguments would be the same and so, my position can be seen in the debate. But also, I don’t know if its a great idea to argue the same points I may make in the coming weeks in the debate here.





However, the reason I don’t make an issue regarding weddings or funerals in the building (though I do not and would not have mine there) is because of what takes place in the funeral or wedding. There is generally singing of spirtual songs, and a sermon is preached from the Bible.

It seems that some hold the building up as something speacial.

I guess the folks in these scriptures weren’t allowed to do much in thier own home

Col 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

Ro 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

Phm 1:2 And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
(KJV)

Mitch,

Who holds the building up as something special?

I always find that amusing that that is the first thing most people say when you tell them your are opposed to church sponsored recreation such as meals and other recreational activities.

"Well they thing the building is sacred." The fact is, it actually has to do with the purpose that we may have a building. to Carry out the work of the church. We are commanded to Assemble, that is why we have a building. (hebrews 10:25)


Let me ask you a question Mitch,


Would it be scriptural for the church to build and mantain a gymnasium as part of the building?
What about a golf course?

What about a series of theme park rides?

Is the building to "special" for these things?

Kurt wrote:

DueceGoose wrote:

No one going to comment on this question???

Kurt?

I don’t oppose a wedding, but I would the "reception" and the reason for this can be clearly seen in my current ongoing debate at

http://garnerjonesdebate.wordpress.com/

When I was married, we did not have, nor want our wedding in the building, and I do question the wisdom of having a wedding there though I don’t think it is unscriptural.

I don’t think at this time that I will get too involved in a discussion of it here, as it is so closely related to what I am currently debating. I think most of the arguments would be the same and so, my position can be seen in the debate. But also, I don’t know if its a great idea to argue the same points I may make in the coming weeks in the debate here.

However, the reason I don’t make an issue regarding weddings or funerals in the building (though I do not and would not have mine there) is because of what takes place in the funeral or wedding. There is generally singing of spirtual songs, and a sermon is preached from the Bible.

Question: Is there scriptural authority for conducting a wedding or funeral in a church building? Which area of work of the church would this fall under?

Evangelism, Edification, or Benevolence?

And if you do not oppose having a wedding or funeral in a church building, why not a reception afterward?

DueceGoose wrote:

Kurt wrote:

DueceGoose wrote:



No one going to comment on this question???



Kurt?

I don’t oppose a wedding, but I would the "reception" and the reason for this can be clearly seen in my current ongoing debate at



http://garnerjonesdebate.wordpress.com/



When I was married, we did not have, nor want our wedding in the building, and I do question the wisdom of having a wedding there though I don’t think it is unscriptural.



I don’t think at this time that I will get too involved in a discussion of it here, as it is so closely related to what I am currently debating. I think most of the arguments would be the same and so, my position can be seen in the debate. But also, I don’t know if its a great idea to argue the same points I may make in the coming weeks in the debate here.



However, the reason I don’t make an issue regarding weddings or funerals in the building (though I do not and would not have mine there) is because of what takes place in the funeral or wedding. There is generally singing of spirtual songs, and a sermon is preached from the Bible.

Question: Is there scriptural authority for conducting a wedding or funeral in a church building? Which area of work of the church would this fall under?



Evangelism, Edification, or Benevolence?



And if you do not oppose having a wedding or funeral in a church building, why not a reception afterward?

As I pointed out, during a wedding there is Preaching from the Bible (which is edification (Acts 20; and evangelism (1 Corinthians 1:18-ff). There is singing of scriptural songs which is both evangelism and edification (Colossians 3:16).


The reception is a fuction for purely social reasons. It’s purpose is social. They eat cake, drink punch, open preasents, throw flowers, etc... it has no spiritual function.

As I pointed out, I question the wisdom of having weddings and funerals in the meeting houses, and I did not have my wedding, nor do I intend for my loved ones to have my funeral in a church’s meeting house. But, I do see a big difference between singing spiritual songs, and preaching from God’s word, and eating cake, throwing flowers, and opening gifts.

Kurt wrote:

As I pointed out, during a wedding there is Preaching from the Bible (which is edification (Acts 20; and evangelism (1 Corinthians 1:18-ff). There is singing of scriptural songs which is both evangelism and edification (Colossians 3:16).

The reception is a fuction for purely social reasons. It’s purpose is social. They eat cake, drink punch, open preasents, throw flowers, etc... it has no spiritual function.

As I pointed out, I question the wisdom of having weddings and funerals in the meeting houses, and I did not have my wedding, nor do I intend for my loved ones to have my funeral in a church’s meeting house. But, I do see a big difference between singing spiritual songs, and preaching from God’s word, and eating cake, throwing flowers, and opening gifts.

This is not always true. There is usually never a sermon preached at a wedding, and sometimes the wedding will have IM being played for some of the songs.

A wedding is purely a social purpose, isn’t it? Who says you have to have one? Why can’t a couple make their vows before each other, and as local and state laws require, have someone officiate and be done with it?

I can’t see the difference. Please help me.

DueceGoose wrote:


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This is not always true. There is usually never a sermon preached at a wedding, and sometimes the wedding will have IM being played for some of the songs.

Then I would oppose having this type of wedding in the building.

A wedding is purely a social purpose, isn’t it? Who says you have to have one? Why can’t a couple make their vows before each other, and as local and state laws require, have someone officiate and be done with it?



I can’t see the difference. Please help me.

I do not deny that a wedding, by nature, is cultural. But as in the case of Amber’s and My wedding there was much preaching, and all the songs that were sung were spiritual songs, without Instrumental music. (though we had ours in a rented building and I don’t think there would have been any thing wrong with secular music at it.)

But no, you do not have to have one, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone going before a magistrate and having them grant them sign there license and not even having a ceremony, they are still just as married.


But as I said, the reason I don’t think it is wrong to have a wedding in the building is if it contains gospel preaching, and the singing of spiritual songs. That, to me, is the difference. I the gospel is preached, and songs are sung, this is much different than eating cake and opening gifts. That to me is the difference.

Kurt wrote:

DueceGoose wrote:





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This is not always true. There is usually never a sermon preached at a wedding, and sometimes the wedding will have IM being played for some of the songs.

Then I would oppose having this type of wedding in the building.

A wedding is purely a social purpose, isn’t it? Who says you have to have one? Why can’t a couple make their vows before each other, and as local and state laws require, have someone officiate and be done with it?





I can’t see the difference. Please help me.

I do not deny that a wedding, by nature, is cultural. But as in the case of Amber’s and My wedding there was much preaching, and all the songs that were sung were spiritual songs, without Instrumental music. (though we had ours in a rented building and I don’t think there would have been any thing wrong with secular music at it.)



But no, you do not have to have one, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone going before a magistrate and having them grant them sign there license and not even having a ceremony, they are still just as married.





But as I said, the reason I don’t think it is wrong to have a wedding in the building is if it contains gospel preaching, and the singing of spiritual songs. That, to me, is the difference. I the gospel is preached, and songs are sung, this is much different than eating cake and opening gifts. That to me is the difference.

Can you provide any scripture that condemns having a wedding in a building with a sign out front that says "Church of Christ", and have normal wedding music playing inside? It is obviously not worship, it is obviously a cultural event.



Would it be ok, to have a radio playing in a preachers study while he is preparing his sermon for the upcoming week? If no, why not?

DueceGoose wrote:

Kurt wrote:

DueceGoose wrote:



This is not always true. There is usually never a sermon preached at a wedding, and sometimes the wedding will have IM being played for some of the songs.

Then I would oppose having this type of wedding in the building.



A wedding is purely a social purpose, isn’t it? Who says you have to have one? Why can’t a couple make their vows before each other, and as local and state laws require, have someone officiate and be done with it?



I can’t see the difference. Please help me.

I do not deny that a wedding, by nature, is cultural. But as in the case of Amber’s and My wedding there was much preaching, and all the songs that were sung were spiritual songs, without Instrumental music. (though we had ours in a rented building and I don’t think there would have been any thing wrong with secular music at it.)



But no, you do not have to have one, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone going before a magistrate and having them grant them sign there license and not even having a ceremony, they are still just as married.



But as I said, the reason I don’t think it is wrong to have a wedding in the building is if it contains gospel preaching, and the singing of spiritual songs. That, to me, is the difference. I the gospel is preached, and songs are sung, this is much different than eating cake and opening gifts. That to me is the difference.

Can you provide any scripture that condemns having a wedding in a building with a sign out front that says "Church of Christ", and have normal wedding music playing inside? It is obviously not worship, it is obviously a cultural event.



Would it be ok, to have a radio playing in a preachers study while he is preparing his sermon for the upcoming week? If no, why not?


like with instrumental music in worship, the burden does not lay on finding a scripture that condemns it, but rather showing the authority for it. But singing psalms, hymns, and spritual songs is worship, preaching and teaching is service and worship to God. when we pray, we worship the Lord. For Christians, these things take place in a wedding...not only do they take place, they are the the wedding, even the "vows" are based upon biblical principal. So while the event is cultural, if these things take place they are making provision for teaching the lost (as there are many who attend weddings; or funerals) and edifying the saints who may be present.

But, as pointed out in David’s and my debate, the point regarding whether there could be a radio playing in the preacher’s study or having on play during a wedding is a question of incidentals. I believe it would be wrong if we came to the guilding fo rhte purpose of listing to the radio. The reason the preacher is there is to study, he may want music playing in the background or whatever, but his purpose in being there is to do the work of evangelims and edification.

But let me ask this, Would it be sinful for the church to play a radio during the assembly?

Actually, now I"m doing the very thing I intended not to do.


I"m making points which could be copied, and somehow incorporated into the debate, as a red herring diversion from the topic we are discussion.


I think I’ll leave this until we the debate is either over, or at least considerably farther along.

Lastly,

Suffice it to say I think the difference is still the fact that teaching takes place, and while I would not participate in having a funeral or wedding for myself in the meeting house, I do not make an issue of it because of the fact that such teaching takes place. IF it does not then I would oppose it .

Kurt wrote:

But let me ask this, Would it be sinful for the church to play a radio during the assembly? (emphasis added: pdm)

Yes

What if the preacher forgot and left his radio on low, with his door closed; while the church was assembled and worshiping?

Would that be sinful?