I hate the fact the American goverment says we’re free but yet I can’t skate where ever I want to. Kids can’t pray in school because of seperation of church and state. Can’t call a Chirstmas tree a Chirstmas tree any more have to call it a Holiday tree. If America was free then I would be able to pee in the lettuce in wal-mart. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS FUCK AMERICA........

If America was free--I still wouldn’t let you piss on my lettuce.

It depends if America is free as long as the rich and the powerful take control over us. Besides, if america is free, you can do basically what you need to do to enjoy this freedom. But if you still enslaved, then you can’t basically do anything that you do for survival unless you comply with "go to school, get a job and get food and drink" philosophy that the rich has set us with.

PinkEye Sushi wrote:
It depends if America is free as long as the rich and the powerful take control over us. Besides, if america is free, you can do basically what you need to do to enjoy this freedom. But if you still enslaved, then you can’t basically do anything that you do for survival unless you comply with "go to school, get a job and get food and drink" philosophy that the rich has set us with.

Sounds like a pretty solid measure to me. The thing that gets me are the "we’re are free and you’re just commie pinko because you want anarchy" -types.

Sorry another bitch. I was at the DMV and this asshole in front of me was going on and on about how democrats, not even anarchists, were nazis and chumming it up with the guy behind the counter....I don’t know I don’t like Democrats much myself but I know this kind of asshole when I see it.

And that is where the humor lies...most people don’t want freedom, they want organized freedom. boundaries to tell them where the scope of their limits lie. hehehehehehehehehehe

My favorite argument is the "human nature" one. Basically, humans are by nature aggressive and destructive and need supervision. Firstly, why, if you are distrustful of human nature, would you support having another human be in control of you? Secondly, as a basic principle of animal psychology you can’t observe animals in captivity and use that as a reference for their natural behavior. None of us in this society have seen what human beings outside of a cage look like.

i agree that we are in no way free. the goverment, not just usa but europe also, says were free but there version of free is basicly a modern prettied up disguised version of slavery... if we were free parents wouldnt get in trouble for there kids not going to school, kids would not be forced to go to school i understand that they are wanting the bast for everyone but if the kids are not wanting to take part in the education then its not the parents fault and there is nothing they can do to make there kids learn, i may be different than some of you in the idea that i think we do need leaders but we need true leaders ones that will guide us not menipulate us into getting what they want to do done as far as a goverment we really dont need it but we do need leaders its part of human nature to follow a few select individuals or in some cases be those individuals... there will be a day when more than just a handful of the population will understand this and the revolution will happen and the after math will be pretty damn brutal but then once all the carnage and chaos is over we will truly be free and life is gonna be beautiful untill the minipulaters and liers and schemers claw there cowerdly ass way back to the top then it will happen again and if what i think will happens really happens then its just a never ending cycle so if it happens in our lifetime then we better enjoy it while it lasts



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