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Reply with this quote Reply to this Post Posted:  Aug 24, 2005 6:39 AM
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Which has more power? Genetics or astrology? Could you predict or otherwise recognize in a chart whether a person has a big nose, extremely large breasts, or is born with dwarfism or is born blind?

Obviously the first place to look is the Ascendant, the sign its in, its dipositor, and any planets in the first house and all aspects concerning those planets and the Ascendant.

If theres anything conjuncting or otherwise significantly aspecting the Ascendant it can sometimes say something about your basic presence or outlook. But can we be so precise as to say the person may be mute? Would that be a Mercury square Ascendant?

And so what would you say about this person (She doesn't mind if I use her chart)



Forgive me for my perversity caused by Moon, Mercury, Venus, well, everything in Scorpio.

What if I told you this lady has the largest breasts I have ever encountered in my short life? So large in fact, that she has to buy her lingerie online from a special store in Canada? (So thats what you guys are thinking about in canada, huh Nick haha) They strain her back but she doesn't want a reduction.

So we look at her Ascendant. In Pisces. Empty first house. Her Ascendant is ruled by Neptune, at 0 degrees Cappy in the 10th.

Wow that was so film-noir just then AAH okay back on topic

Her Ascendant is sextiled by her Moon in Taurus in the 2nd. Moon is ruled by Cancer which rules the breasts, and the Moon is exalted in Taurus. Its a loose connection though. It trines her Mars and Venus in Virgo in the 6th, but her breasts cause backstrain, so if the Moon did represent her breasts, they couldn't be beneficial. However, the Mars and Venus are in Virgo, but Leo rules her sixth house (which is ruled by Virgo), and Leo rules the heart and back.

Back to Neptune, the ruler of her Ascendant. Its in her 10th, but her 10th is ruled by Sagittarius. Now we must jump to Sagittarius' ruler Jupiter, which is located in Aquarius in the 11th. Jupiter represents expansiveness, and in the sign Aquarius could represent the alarming unusual size of her breasts. It squares Pluto and trines her Sun. So it is in a way beneficial to who she is, "enhances" her image, but then also squaring Pluto...could they be the death of her? Well, no. But in a much broader sense that can also mean dogmatic attitudes, especially because of the fixed signs. Well, at least she's progressively fixed.

Presuming her Moon represents her breasts, the opposition to Saturn (ruling bones of all kind including back) could make sense, as this would illustrate the relationship between her breasts and her back. (As well as contributing to feelings of emotional isolation, even depression.)

Cancer (ruled by moon, ruler of breasts) does rule her 5th house, and certainly I'd say "they" have brought her luck in romance. She literally does rule the world with a low-cut shirt, she got a whole bunch of us a discount at dinner and free refills when we weren't allowed, and we got moved to a nicer table (when she asked).

Oh, and she's sadomasochist. You may have noticed the Mars conjunct Venus (pleasure with pain?) squaring her Uranus (pleasure with pain with aaah what is THAT?) Saturn in Scorpio in 8th? Bondage! (however, she is the complete opposite of a skeptic regarding the occult...she loves it!)

Oh, and she's psychic so she claims (and into witchcraft and all that stuff). But now I'm not so sure when I see Saturn in her 8th house, her Neptune barely squeaking past a square to her Sun. The Moon sextiles her Pisces ascendant though, so who knows. And Pluto is in her 8th house, probably giving her a degree of power in that whole arena. Her boyfriend (basically husband/soulmate, 7th house Sun) is psychic too. So who knows. She is the person I come to with tarot/witchcraft questions. She comes to me for astrology questions.

ANYWAYS, back on to the topic of her breasts.

I really had to stretch that in ways you shouldn't normally have to to pick up anything remotely related to her breasts, which are a big facet of her personality, much humor comes from her breasts. They are glowing orbs of happiness spreading joy wherever she goes LOL.

This could be for 2 reasons:
1) I forget whether her birthtime was an estimate or accurate. I'm guessing its an estimate but still supposed to be quite close to 5:30, within the hour eachway.
2) Maybe we haven't figured out the significance of the very planet the birth took place on, planet Earth, into account in natal chart interpretation. True, the Sun is always opposite to Terra Firma, but do we really know what Earth means, or what effect it has on a person? The aspects it would make would only be ones that are complementary of the aspects made to the Sun. A Planet squaring your Sun is also squaring Earth, a planet that sextiles your Sun will trine your Earth. And doesn't it make sense that Earth be considered since it is our home and where we received our genes that affect our physical and sometimes even mental personalities to infallible degrees? It must have significance, but we do not take it into account, and perhaps that makes up whatever percent it is that we can't tell from the other planets, such details as big breasts.

Oh, and did you know that guys like breasts because we have a subconscious desire to carry on our genes and that ample breasts are a sign that the woman could be healthy to feed a prospective child, and this also explains why butts are also desired, they indicate hip width, which indicates to a man that the woman may be able to bear a child, and this also works for women, thats why they like buff guys so they can go out and get the meat while protecting her and the children, she lures him to stay by giving him steady sex which produces more children, and so on. What can I say. I am fond of runons.

I sincerely thank you for reading.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 6:55 AM
LOL!!!!!

This is my new favorite thread. Which aspects denote boob growth? Scorpio perversity is at its truest and best.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:04 AM
Patrick, you know how to get a guy's attention, LOL. But seriously, you've made a sincere and mature query of this, so I'll throw in my two cents.

I think the Moon-Saturn opposition indeed is an indicator of her problems (and her boyfriend's blessing...okay, I'll stop that). But why would they be big in the first place? Well, I would speculate that her biggest growth spurt coincided with the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on her natal Moon in May 2000, when she was fourteen-and-a-half years old.

I'm certainly inclined to think the transits coinciding with her puberty years are part of the story. This doesn't mean she wasn't always born to be well-endowed (obviously, it's a birth condition), but the transits reflect how and when she would experience these changes, and what the consequences might be.

I wonder if the Neptune square transit in the next two years might coincide with a time that she has reduction surgery. Has she said anything about that possibility? If they are such a part of her personality, it might be hard for her to go through with it, but then the burden might eventually overcome her attachment to them.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:24 AM
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Patrick, you know how to get a guy's attention, LOL. But seriously, you've made a sincere and mature query of this, so I'll throw in my two cents.



I think the Moon-Saturn opposition indeed is an indicator of her problems (and her boyfriend's blessing...okay, I'll stop that). But why would they be big in the first place? Well, I would speculate that her biggest growth spurt coincided with the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on her natal Moon in May 2000, when she was fourteen-and-a-half years old.



I'm certainly inclined to think the transits coinciding with her puberty years are part of the story. This doesn't mean she wasn't always born to be well-endowed (obviously, it's a birth condition), but the transits reflect how and when she would experience these changes, and what the consequences might be.



I wonder if the Neptune square transit in the next two years might coincide with a time that she has reduction surgery. Has she said anything about that possibility? If they are such a part of her personality, it might be hard for her to go through with it, but then the burden might eventually overcome her attachment to them.


I was almost tempted to title the post 'Big Ass Titties' like that delightful flash toon of Lindsay Lohan making its rounds on the internet.

The human ephemeris strikes again! EphemerNick! Thats a marvelous insight, looking at the transits of her puberty.

As for the Neptune squaring, could very well be, though she is quite firm against reduction. Maybe that could change, she's a Libra haha. Neptune would be in her 12th house though, her relationship with her boyfriend is very Neptunian and Uranian, but they've been together for years, I think it could also indicate a time of weakness on her part, falling for someone else. They party pretty hard.

The Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on her Moon would also have meant that Jupiter and Saturn were opposing her natal Saturn. That spells loss to me. I think then it could be a real possibility then that she could get a reduction at some point in the future. Excellent work Nick!

I do have the chart of a similarly gifted girl who did get reductions...a Cancer...I could check to see what transits were going on at that time.

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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:31 AM
(smiles and nods with eyes cast slightly downward)
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:35 AM
I think this is the only time we can talk about breasts without honestly being completely perverted.

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Well, just about completely. ::looks around sheepishly, eyes dart side to side furtively::

I also find it ironic, that the very people I did not wish to offend with this post are the first to comment giggling about the word "titties" like giggling little schoolgi-, well, female students of astrology. I'm glad they like it though haha.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:48 AM
Well, your reception would probably be different if you said "for the sake of a study I'm doing, I'd like all well-endowed women to send me their birth data", LOL.

As for not being completely perverted, I admit it has taken some restraint to keep me from expressing my more base responses to your descriptions. I think we're lucky in this group to have a)women with enough sense of humour and openess to not totally recoil from this topic and b)men who, despite their lustful weaknesses, can, um, handle this, um, touchy subject. Oh geez!
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:53 AM
hahahahahah and I'm supposed to be the gentleman here. Mars in Libra can sell anything.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 4:21 PM
What about her family? Does she have any sisters? Is her mother the same size? When considering a source all facts and evidence must be looked at not just the sky. I think that is the way the Earth directly affects a persons development. A family and its biology is part of Earth ecosystem. And a human is included in that ecosystem (symbiosis).

As for biologically programed mating choices: Women choose men with a nice strong looking butt because a good trust can deliver sperm where it's needed.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 5:19 PM
She does have a sister, but they don't look anything alike. her sister looks faryounger than she actually is, and is absolutely nowhere near her sister's, erm, size. They get along well though.

I have never seen her parents, all I know is that she doesn't always get along with her mother. No info on that sad to say.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 7:29 PM
Her Ceres is 19 degrees Leo.

Uh...whoa...thats EXACTLY conjunct my Ascendant, My Ascendant is 19 degrees Leo 7 minutes. Her Ceres is 19 degrees Leo 9 minutes. 2 minutes off!

And my Sun is exactly conjunct her Part of Fortune, 0 degrees 32 minutes apart.

But okay enough synastry its in her 6th sextiling her Mercury in Libra in the 7th. It squares her Moon in Taurus in the 2nd. It trines her Uranus in Sagittarius in the 9th.

Hmm..My mars conjuncts her Sun...my Suns in her 7th house, her mars-venus conjunction sextiles my Venus. My moon conjuncts her pluto...her jupiter trines my mars and her neptune trines my sun and moon...aaaaah!
Needlessto say, we flirt. But I'm taken and what to remain that way for a time! ahha
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 10:57 PM
Hmm I wonder how it goes for guys now. "What aspects denote penis growth" LOL ok is this too far? I never know.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 11:07 PM
Patrick Wrote:
Hmm I wonder how it goes for guys now. "What aspects denote penis growth" LOL ok is this too far? I never know.

I'll let you know about transits when the Enzyte kicks in.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Aug 24, 2005 11:13 PM
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[t]Patrick Wrote:
Hmm I wonder how it goes for guys now. "What aspects denote penis growth" LOL ok is this too far? I never know.[/t]

I'll let you know about transits when the Enzyte kicks in.


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