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Of course we will probably never see the film of Lolita that Nabokov wanted us to see, one based on the screenplay he wrote that Kubrick claimed would have been over seven hours long. Which version does everyone prefer, Lyne's or Kubrick's? Are there others?

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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 3, 2007 6:21 AM
LYNES!!!!
Dominique Swain was amazing
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 3, 2007 6:42 AM
lyne's. jeremy irons and dominique swain work soo well together.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 3, 2007 10:47 AM
The one directed by Arian Lyne, ..

The original with Sue Lyon's, I barely made thru, ...

The second with Jeremy and Dominique, . I have watched a thousand times, .. and it is forever burned into my spirit, heart and soul, ..

Dominique was amazing in this film, .. as so was Jeremy, .. but without Dom, .. there would be no REAL 'Lolita' on screen in my eyes.

This movie causes me to experience a rush of a million emotions I would not otherwise feel in my life.

Thank you for a great topic!
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 3, 2007 4:33 PM
Kubrick's did have Peter Sellers, though. If he had been in Lyne's, it would have been perfect. Jeremy Irons was a much better Humbert than James Mason.

I think it's interesting that my local video store has Kubrick's in the comedy section and Lyne's in the drama section. Every time I read the book I change my mind about whether it is a comedy or a tragedy. Someone called Lolita the "saddest of funny books and the funniest of sad ones, " so it seems fitting that it should have two so vastly different adaptations.

Has anyone read Nabokov's screenplay? I haven't been able to find it.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 3, 2007 9:51 PM
I am strange its a toss up but I love James as Hum and Dom as Lo. Both movies are good and I dont think I could say which I love more. They both are just personal interpretations of the same thing. They are both beautiful in my eyes.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Jan 4, 2007 7:46 PM
They both have their moments. I enjoyed both.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Feb 18, 2007 6:16 AM
Lyne's because in Kubrick's Lo's mom calls her Lolita and only Humbert calls her that. Jeremy did a much better job at playing Humbert and Dominique was a much better Lo. Sue did not fit the description of a nymphet she looks more like a 'normal' girl men would go for. and in the book and movie Humbert says

"A normal man, given a group photograph of school girls and asked to point out the loveliest one, will not necessarily choose the nymphet among them."

And that girl would be Sue In the movie, Sue Lyon is attractive by conventional standards, but in the novel, both Charlotte and Humbert comment on Lolita's lack of conventional attractiveness, and it is hinted that this is why greater suspicion does not fall on Humbert.


Dominique is beautiful but not by conventional standerds she has something that Sue did not. She truely was a nymphet.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Feb 20, 2007 7:22 PM
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Dominique was a much better Lo. Sue did not fit the description of a nymphet she looks more like a 'normal' girl men would go for. and in the book and movie Humbert says

"A normal man, given a group photograph of school girls and asked to point out the loveliest one, will not necessarily choose the nymphet among them."

And that girl would be Sue In the movie, Sue Lyon is attractive by conventional standards, but in the novel, both Charlotte and Humbert comment on Lolita's lack of conventional attractiveness, and it is hinted that this is why greater suspicion does not fall on Humbert.


Nabokov himself was adamant that the actress playing Lolita in Kubrick's version be (and look) older than Lolita was in the book. To have the actress be a nymphet herself was evidently too much for Vladimir. She had to be "pubescent" in the film is how he put it.

All this aside, Dominique Swain was a much better Lo.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Mar 5, 2007 4:14 AM
I have to confess that I enjoyed both but the second was better.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Apr 6, 2007 3:38 AM
i enjoyed the bw version better than the updated version...although the updated version had its good moments, i rather enjoyed the artfully done scenes of the bw lolita because it was more about the viewers imagination than actual imagery
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Feb 15, 2008 12:00 AM
Well, I enjoy both film adaptations, but I think Lyne's was more true to the whole story. Jeremy Irons was a perfect Humbert Humbert. He portrayed him so much better than Mason. Dominique Swain also manged to give us a more childish role of Lolita than Sue Lyon, who played Lolita as a little more sexually mature child.
And Frank Langella was the perfect Quilty for me. He played Quilty with a more darkly way than Sellers did.
And, the music! Oh, that soundtrack still got me shivering every time I hear it. One of the best works of Ennio Morricone, I think.
But this film has a flaw. Why Lyne deleted the scene where Humbert and Lo playing with the apple in the house? He deleted one of the most strong emotial scenes in the book.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Apr 26, 2008 9:47 AM
Yes, much agreed...And particularly for the reasons you stated. A much better Lolita, by far. The movie was exhausting, not for the strain of it, but for the immensity and intensity of a myriad feelings. I don’t know that either film fit the book, but I recognized very little in the way of pathos from reading the book or from Kubrick’s version. Not to say I didn’t enjoy them all in different ways. But Jeremy and Dominique were able to bring out a depth of emotion with every word, and, even...gesture, and hint of "thought." Profound and heart wrenching and more things ineffable.
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Reply with this quote Post a reply to this Topic Posted: Sep 25, 2009 7:09 AM
Lyne’s, by far.
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