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Tyler
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Sep 27, 2009 10:42 PM
so yeah im pretty sure i know who everyone thinks will win... but id like to see everyone’s opinion on how this would play out...
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Sep 28, 2009 1:52 AM
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so yeah im pretty sure i know who everyone thinks will win... but id like to see everyone’s opinion on how this would play out...
Well I can tell you this right off the bat. Bruce Wayne would hate Tony Stark, he would think he was a pompus fool. Bruce would do his best to pretend to like Tony, But Batman will be ready for battle when he strikes against Ironman. You see everyone know’s who Ironman is, but very few know the Batmans idenity, and I doubt that anyone would share it with Tony. Now Batman would have fun with Tony Stark he would become his bussness partner, seeing how Bruces company is way larger then Stark’s, he would acept. Now Batman goes to work he learnes everything about Ironman, Tony would have no idea anything was going on. Working with Wayne to develop new tech for new suites, Tony would be very happy with the result’s. Bruce would now have complete control, Batman would step out of the shadows and make his first move, Ironman would be looking bad ass, while Batman pull’s a remote out of his utillity belt and takes over the suite’s movements, just slightly, so Tony is frusterated, he is thinking how could this guy avade all my strike’s so quickly, he makes it look easy, like he knows what I am thinking. Fear takes over Tony’s mind as he fight’s The Batman, Bruce who is only playing with Ironman like a cat with a mouse. Tony would flee frighten, shaken more then he has ever felt before. Batman knows Tony is not aware, there was no way he could have harmed him. Bruce would keep Tony on a short leash from there on in, meaning let him do the hero stuff, he help’s people, but if he ever step’s out of line he has to answer to the Batman. And he wouldn’t be nice about teaching Tony Stark a painful lesson if he did slip up.
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Sep 28, 2009 4:00 AM
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RED HEAD SAMURAI wrote:
so yeah im pretty sure i know who everyone thinks will win... but id like to see everyone’s opinion on how this would play out...
Well I can tell you this right off the bat. Bruce Wayne would hate Tony Stark, he would think he was a pompus fool. Bruce would do his best to pretend to like Tony, But Batman will be ready for battle when he strikes against Ironman. You see everyone know’s who Ironman is, but very few know the Batmans idenity, and I doubt that anyone would share it with Tony. Now Batman would have fun with Tony Stark he would become his bussness partner, seeing how Bruces company is way larger then Stark’s, he would acept. Now Batman goes to work he learnes everything about Ironman, Tony would have no idea anything was going on. Working with Wayne to develop new tech for new suites, Tony would be very happy with the result’s. Bruce would now have complete control, Batman would step out of the shadows and make his first move, Ironman would be looking bad ass, while Batman pull’s a remote out of his utillity belt and takes over the suite’s movements, just slightly, so Tony is frusterated, he is thinking how could this guy avade all my strike’s so quickly, he makes it look easy, like he knows what I am thinking. Fear takes over Tony’s mind as he fight’s The Batman, Bruce who is only playing with Ironman like a cat with a mouse. Tony would flee frighten, shaken more then he has ever felt before. Batman knows Tony is not aware, there was no way he could have harmed him. Bruce would keep Tony on a short leash from there on in, meaning let him do the hero stuff, he help’s people, but if he ever step’s out of line he has to answer to the Batman. And he wouldn’t be nice about teaching Tony Stark a painful lesson if he did slip up.
yeah... i was just asking whod win in a straight up fight not realy as if they were in the same universe... also if they were in the same universe tony has strong connections wit sheild so they probably would know who bats is
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Sep 28, 2009 1:55 PM
I have to agree with Spider-man here. If you are bringing these 2 together one must assume that they must be in the same universe at least for this fight. Or one of the others, if Batman is in Marvel, he will find out that Ironman is Tony Stark, that is no secret anymore. If Ironman is in DCU Batman couldn’t know these things, however he has the advantage of home turf then. The flip switch if the other way around, like Spider-man mention, Bruce would learn about Tony before he faught him since his Ironman identity is NO secret, either way Batman will gain a advantage over Ironman.
Come on, he is the Batman, plus if he wanted to he could put on one his armor suits... He is just as technological advance as Toney, but better prepared... He use one of his gizmos to shut Tony’s suit down, like Captain america did.
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Sep 28, 2009 9:57 PM
Yeah Batman wins hands down. I don’t even think there would be much of a contest. Plus I think Batman has some Vodka or Tequila in his Batbelt he could give to Tony and watch him get drunk and fly around in circles. LOL... Batman vs Ironman...
Everyone who said that Batman would quickly learn that Tony Stark is Iron Man, was correct and once that was figured out, he sneak into Stark tower and take Tony down before he got to his suit. (this is after hacking in Stark’s data network, finding out the blue print of the building. Finding out where the suits were kept, sabotaging the suits just in case) Batman wouldn’t play especially if there was something of major proportions at stake.
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Sep 29, 2009 4:10 AM
i think technologically tony is smarter cuz he makes most of his stuff bruce just takes his companies weapons and throws in a bat theme lol.... but yeah batman would still win... but also if they are in the same universe like i said tony has strong connections to sheild so he could easily find out who bat man is cuz shield knows who EVERYONE is and if batman was their too they would know who he was too... also ur acting as if batmans going to unprovoked go bug all of tonys crap and fuck over his buisnesses and theres no reason in hell hed do that
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Sep 29, 2009 2:19 PM
RED HEAD SAMURAI wrote:
i think technologically tony is smarter cuz he makes most of his stuff bruce just takes his companies weapons and throws in a bat theme lol.... but yeah batman would still win... but also if they are in the same universe like i said tony has strong connections to sheild so he could easily find out who bat man is cuz shield knows who EVERYONE is and if batman was their too they would know who he was too... also ur acting as if batmans going to unprovoked go bug all of tonys crap and fuck over his buisnesses and theres no reason in hell hed do that
Remember, we are talking about comics, and in the comics a lot of Batman’s gadgets he has developed on his own, but also Lucias Fox has helped him a lot also Batman trusts him with that sort of thing he doesn’t have time to mass produce all of his gear. Another thing Tony is not smarter, it takes more knowledge and intellect to be a master of many traits not just one.
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Sep 29, 2009 5:26 PM
RED HEAD SAMURAI wrote:
i think technologically tony is smarter cuz he makes most of his stuff bruce just takes his companies weapons and throws in a bat theme lol.... but yeah batman would still win... but also if they are in the same universe like i said tony has strong connections to sheild so he could easily find out who bat man is cuz shield knows who EVERYONE is and if batman was their too they would know who he was too... also ur acting as if batmans going to unprovoked go bug all of tonys crap and fuck over his buisnesses and theres no reason in hell hed do that
Yeah that’s what Batman Does!!! He doesn’t always act apon it because they don’t always give him a reason but he does prepair, he would bug all of tony’s toys and reason has nothing to do with it, If there is a interation then there is the normal precation’s, Batman is very peraniod. Now if he decided he was going to face Ironman, he would have all his bases coverd before hand, And S.H.E.I.L.D. There is a DCU version of the S.H.E.I.L.D. only they do know who the Batman is well the head member’s anyways and they know better than anyone to not get on his bad side, because he knows everything about them aswell. If Batman was in Marvel Universe Nick would want to recruit The Batman. If Bruce wanted to he could take Nicks job as head of S.H.E.I.L.D. but he wouldn’t. And Tony Stark is not smarter then Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne has forgoten more then Tony Stark has ever known, Tony is brilliant in Science, Math. Batman knows alot about alot of diffrent thing’s. He is more then a match mentally for just about anyone.
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Sep 30, 2009 4:12 AM
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RED HEAD SAMURAI wrote:
i think technologically tony is smarter cuz he makes most of his stuff bruce just takes his companies weapons and throws in a bat theme lol.... but yeah batman would still win... but also if they are in the same universe like i said tony has strong connections to sheild so he could easily find out who bat man is cuz shield knows who EVERYONE is and if batman was their too they would know who he was too... also ur acting as if batmans going to unprovoked go bug all of tonys crap and fuck over his buisnesses and theres no reason in hell hed do that
Yeah that’s what Batman Does!!! He doesn’t always act apon it because they don’t always give him a reason but he does prepair, he would bug all of tony’s toys and reason has nothing to do with it, If there is a interation then there is the normal precation’s, Batman is very peraniod. Now if he decided he was going to face Ironman, he would have all his bases coverd before hand, And S.H.E.I.L.D. There is a DCU version of the S.H.E.I.L.D. only they do know who the Batman is well the head member’s anyways and they know better than anyone to not get on his bad side, because he knows everything about them aswell. If Batman was in Marvel Universe Nick would want to recruit The Batman. If Bruce wanted to he could take Nicks job as head of S.H.E.I.L.D. but he wouldn’t. And Tony Stark is not smarter then Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne has forgoten more then Tony Stark has ever known, Tony is brilliant in Science, Math. Batman knows alot about alot of diffrent thing’s. He is more then a match mentally for just about anyone.
i did say technologically smarter didnt i? I know theres different kind of smarts that y i said technologically and as far as im aware Tony is bruce is still smart but he cant build all the stuff tony can... also i dnt think wayne industries is much bigger if it even is bigger than stark industries
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Sep 30, 2009 5:01 AM
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RED HEAD SAMURAI wrote:
i think technologically tony is smarter cuz he makes most of his stuff bruce just takes his companies weapons and throws in a bat theme lol.... but yeah batman would still win... but also if they are in the same universe like i said tony has strong connections to sheild so he could easily find out who bat man is cuz shield knows who EVERYONE is and if batman was their too they would know who he was too... also ur acting as if batmans going to unprovoked go bug all of tonys crap and fuck over his buisnesses and theres no reason in hell hed do that
Yeah that’s what Batman Does!!! He doesn’t always act apon it because they don’t always give him a reason but he does prepair, he would bug all of tony’s toys and reason has nothing to do with it, If there is a interation then there is the normal precation’s, Batman is very peraniod. Now if he decided he was going to face Ironman, he would have all his bases coverd before hand, And S.H.E.I.L.D. There is a DCU version of the S.H.E.I.L.D. only they do know who the Batman is well the head member’s anyways and they know better than anyone to not get on his bad side, because he knows everything about them aswell. If Batman was in Marvel Universe Nick would want to recruit The Batman. If Bruce wanted to he could take Nicks job as head of S.H.E.I.L.D. but he wouldn’t. And Tony Stark is not smarter then Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne has forgoten more then Tony Stark has ever known, Tony is brilliant in Science, Math. Batman knows alot about alot of diffrent thing’s. He is more then a match mentally for just about anyone.
i did say technologically smarter didnt i? I know theres different kind of smarts that y i said technologically and as far as im aware Tony is bruce is still smart but he cant build all the stuff tony can... also i dnt think wayne industries is much bigger if it even is bigger than stark industries
O well my bad then on the first part. But yes it is bigger, Wayne’s company is world wide and has multiple share holder’s from all corner’s of the globe. Stark stray’s from that kind of idea, he is afraid of the wrong hands getting to his toy’s, S.H.E.I.L.D. funds alot of Tony’s work for his help in return with new weopon tech, as far as Bruce building stuff goes he is not helpless, It is true Fox handles most of the work, but Bruce also has ties to lot’s of other high tech weapon developers who can build all kinds of amazing gizzmos for him. Bruce has all the right kind of freinds. Tony on the other hand is not well liked.
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Sep 30, 2009 10:17 PM
batman would win all because of how he has been doing his work alot longer than tony stark aka iron man, bruce is a detective/billionaire and has better gadgets.
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Oct 3, 2009 4:41 PM
Batman being a detective does not matter in this battle. There is no crime to solve. Tony is a billionaire as well, depending on which time period you are referring to. When it comes to tech, Tony outclasses Bruce. Tony was inventing things when he was still a kid. Bruce is smart, but not THAT smart. When it comes to tech and straight power, Tony has this fight hands down.
Where Bruce has the edge is in psychological warfare. Tony is a man haunted by ghosts. Those include things like the loss of friends, the actions of enemies, and of course the booze. It is not hard to rattle Tony. If Batman was able to find out any of this ahead of time, he would use it against Tony and come out on top.
So it goes back to the old adage, with time to prepare, Batman will win. But if they stumble across one another and start fighting, I give the win to Iron Man.
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Oct 3, 2009 4:45 PM
I’ll also add, especially if we are talking about Extremis Iron Man. He would be able to access Batman’s computer systems. This would allow him control over most of Bruce’s tech.
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Oct 6, 2009 4:55 PM
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Batman being a detective does not matter in this battle. There is no crime to solve. Tony is a billionaire as well, depending on which time period you are referring to. When it comes to tech, Tony outclasses Bruce. Tony was inventing things when he was still a kid. Bruce is smart, but not THAT smart. When it comes to tech and straight power, Tony has this fight hands down.
Where Bruce has the edge is in psychological warfare. Tony is a man haunted by ghosts. Those include things like the loss of friends, the actions of enemies, and of course the booze. It is not hard to rattle Tony. If Batman was able to find out any of this ahead of time, he would use it against Tony and come out on top.
So it goes back to the old adage, with time to prepare, Batman will win. But if they stumble across one another and start fighting, I give the win to Iron Man.
After reading this I was sick to hear what said, You really don’t know jack shit about Batman do you? Does Tony have tech that can get him into the dark depths of space? The answer is no, he doesn’t Reed Richards does, Batman also has this high grade tech.... And if you think Tony could out think Bruce you are for the lack of a better word retarded. You said Ironman would get his ass handed to him, by The GreenLanturn, right? Well Bruce has before and would again, with or without planing beat Lanturn, to be the man, you have to beat the man. So I belive you are underestamating Batman, I also think Ironman would do this? But I don’t belive Batman would because he never takes actions without precation unless there is a reason to hurry, Ironman on the other hand is brash. I don’t think Batman would have to use dirty tricks to beat Ironman.
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Oct 7, 2009 2:02 PM
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Batman being a detective does not matter in this battle. There is no crime to solve. Tony is a billionaire as well, depending on which time period you are referring to. When it comes to tech, Tony outclasses Bruce. Tony was inventing things when he was still a kid. Bruce is smart, but not THAT smart. When it comes to tech and straight power, Tony has this fight hands down.
Where Bruce has the edge is in psychological warfare. Tony is a man haunted by ghosts. Those include things like the loss of friends, the actions of enemies, and of course the booze. It is not hard to rattle Tony. If Batman was able to find out any of this ahead of time, he would use it against Tony and come out on top.
So it goes back to the old adage, with time to prepare, Batman will win. But if they stumble across one another and start fighting, I give the win to Iron Man.
After reading all your comments, I have come to a conclusion that yes you know something about DC and of Marvel, but you are NOT a True DC fan, nor are you unbiased. I to like Marvel comics I’m a fan of comics in general and I read both, but my obvious preferrance is DC. I admit that I lean toward DC and in other disccusion here I have made that known on many occasions. However I see and make judgements based on what I KNOW of both characters and through comparing and contrasting what I’ve seen and what the characters have done or have been known to do. You on the other hand won’t admit that you are biased, a little or a lot you are still biased in Marvel’s favor. You cannot evaluate this fight right if you don’t know enough of both Characters. Any true comic fan knows how overprepared batman is, and by you saying stuff like Batman is NOT THAT SMART!? You further show your lack of knowledge of the character. He is one of the smartest men in the DC PERIOD. He has studied MANY different factions of science, physics, criminology, espionage, Martial Arts, even Mysticism just in case he has to go up against it. You have nerve to say he’s not that SMART?.. I’m Not taking anything away from Tony Stark he is brilliant technilogical engineer, but thats just about it buddy. He relies on his Tech armor, Batman doesn’t rely on anything but his Mind, body, and WILL, his gadgets are a extension of tools he uses to get the JOB DONE. In a straight up fight All of Tony’s tech want mean anything... You think Batman can’t think on the fly? You’d be wrong if you said yes or even Maybe! He has proven it time and time again on Numberous different comics. You may know something about batman, but it hardly seems you know too much of what he has accomplished if you think Ironman could take Batman in or out of DC...
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Oct 7, 2009 10:38 PM
Being well educated is NOT the same thing as being smart. Bruce knows things because he learned them. Tony is intuitively gifted with his knowledge of tech. This is why he was inventing things as a child. Stuff he hadn’t learned yet.
No I didn’t say that the GLC would hand Iron Man his butt. I said it depended on the scenario. An impromptu battle and they would. If Tony has a chance to analyze their energy signature and has some time, he can likely find a way to drain the energy. It’s what he does.
Iron Man hasn’t made stuff to go into deep space? Huh? He has made all sorts of things from deep space suits and beyond. Most of the tech in the MU is Stark tech based off his designs. He designed the Avengers mansion, the quinjets, the helicarriers, various other heroes’ armor, etc. And while Waynetech is used quite a bit in the DCU, it is not based off Bruce’s designs. He has people in his company designing this stuff. Some stuff he uses as Batman, he came up with himself, but he has been known to use stuff designed by his company as well. In fact there was a version of the Batmobile used in recent years where the basis of it was taken from Waynetech.
I am plenty of a DC fan. Though not so much the core characters. I love characters like Firestorm(Ronnie Raymond), Captain Atom, the JSA, etc. But I love comics in general. And even if I don’t like a certain character, I can recognize where they would beat a character I do like in a battle if that is the case. Pitting Iron Man against Steel might have seen different results. But trying to say Batman is smarter with tech than Iron Man is absurd.
If Batman is patrolling the rooftops and runs into Iron Man for the first time and they start fighting, Tony has the advantage. Bruce isn’t carry a Bat anti-repulsor ray shield in his belt. The adage is "Batman can win with time to prepare". If he doesn’t know anything about the fight he is going into, he won’t walk away the winner simply because he is Batman. He isn’t prepared for every eventuality at all times. Also the Extremis virus gave Tony accelerated healing, which he put on par with Wolverines, and he had heightened reflexes.
Your guy’s response on these threads is like someone on the Washington Nationals forum saying his team could beat the NY Yankees. It doesn’t matter the veracity of that statement, he will stand by it because it is his team. And while such devotion is nifty and everything, the fanboy mentality blind to the facts makes him look idiotic.
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