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Spiritual use of plants and chemicals to help us reach the second attention.
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There are many , many interesting articles here :

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oh and check out this poster while you are there!




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Erowid : It's not just about drugs!



click the image to an endless library of information about expanding the mind .... The Mind and Spirit and Art and Culture sections are often overlooked.


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I have experienced that although Entheogens (most of them) are excellent and easy ways to experence the 2nd Attention, that they also HINDER the ability of achieving 2nd Attention Awarness on my own.

For example, smoking Cannabis (which I consider an Entheogen) will block my ability to achieve lucid dreaming states or astral projection experiences, until my nervous system has purged the toxin from my system.

Anyone else with similar ideas or experiences? Or even the opposite?

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Psychedelic Yoga

The Application of Yoga Meditation Techniques
to the Use of Psychedelic Sacraments
by Sri Brahmarishi Narad
Jun 1967
The following article originally appeared as an uncopyrighted set of mimeographed sheets sometime during the late 1960's, which was freely distributed on a limited basis, probably in San Francisco. Feel free to make copies of this article and to distribute them to those interested to keep this information alive, otherwise it will disappear into antiquity.

It was also published in the San Francisco Oracle .. 8, pg 11, June 1967.

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The fact that psychedelic drugs induce a greater sensitivity to subtle spiritual and psychic energies, and speed up the influx of impressions from deeper levels of consciousness, raises the immediate question of how these energies can be properly understood and handled. Obviously, if these energies are not guided, they can do more harm than good. The application of traditional Yoga meditation techniques while under psychedelic experiences, provides a constructive solution to this problem.

According to Yoga philosophy, the most spiritual and powerful aspect of man's nature is the faculty of attention or consciousness. The most fundamental aspect of man's free will is the choice as to what he allows his attention to dwell upon. The attention always has to be on something, but we can choose what we allow it to dwell upon.

The goal of all Yoga practices is to discover and directly experience what the attention or faculty of consciousness in man is. The yogi seeks to know that principle by which all else is known. This goal is achieved by observing the observer or placing the attention on the attention itself. This may at first seem very abstract and hard to grasp in terms of practical application, but there are workable, time-proven methods for achieving this state of pure consciousness which when consistently applied and practiced are bound to yield results.

It should be constantly remembered during a psychedelic session that whatever perceptions, thoughts and even hallucinations occur, they are all the creations of one's own mind and consciousness, and are filtered through one's own instrument of perception. These perceptions are patternings of our own psychic energy. We give energy to whatever thoughts and feelings we allow the attention to dwell upon. Wherever the power of attention is focused, it generates mental and emotional energy in the form of its own lower overtones, thus feeding and energizing the thoughts and emotions which the attention dwells upon. It becomes clear that the key to remaining in control of a psychedelic experience is in controlling the flow of attention. Distractive experiences can be avoided in the first place, and the flow of attention can be properly directed by the use of Raja Yoga techniques of meditation. The following is a description of several such techniques which can all be applied while under the influence of LSD, marijuana, mescaline, DMT, hashish, psilocybin or other consciousness-expanding drugs.

At this point, let us consider a basic rule to apply in case of paranoia or other unpleasant or frightening experiences while under the influence of a psychedelic drug. Realize that whatever you may be thinking, feeling or experiencing is being experienced by the consciousness within you. Then place your undivided attention on that consciousness which is experiencing whatever is happening to you. This process returns your consciousness to its own pure nature and disengages mental and astral thought forms. These destructive thought forms then dissipate and are dissolved back into the homogeneous, vibrational energy of the plane of energy substance from which they were originally molded. The strong light released by consciousness observing itself, helps to quickly dissolve and dissipate destructive thought forms. This happens because the strong lower overtones of pure consciousness which are generated, cancel out the discordant, out of phase vibrations of destructive thought forms.

If the attention wanders while practicing any of these meditation techniques, immediately bring the attention back to the process of meditation, and do this as many times as is necessary until the attention remains centered on the particular form of meditation which you are practicing. Inexperienced meditators have a tendency to fight distractions, which in itself, becomes a distraction. The attention can only dwell on one thing at a time. Simply bring it back to the thing you are meditating on.

Another way of stopping distractions is simply to temporarily suspend the breathing process by neither breathing in or out. Since breathing is intimately tied to every biological process in the body, the instinct to survive (developed over billions of years of evolution) will interrupt the flow of attention into distractions and bring it to center on the awareness of the cessation of breathing. It is then an easy matter to resume normal breathing and to center the attention on the particular form of meditation being practiced.


Sound Current Meditation
Focus your full, undivided attention in the center of your brain where the pineal gland is located. Listen with your attention for whatever sounds present themselves. After awhile, you will hear sounds of various tones and pitches. At first, you may only hear the low hiss of random molecular noise in the ears, but in time, definite tones will present themselves like sustained notes on an organ. This sound is perceived directly by the brain and the subtle bodies themselves, and not through the outer physical organs of the ears. It is the sound of the vibration of conscious energy as it flows through the physical body and as it vibrates and circulates within the subtle bodies.

You should focus your entire undivided attention on the sound of highest pitch that you can hear, and let it draw you up into higher and higher states of consciousness; also let the sound reveal and intensify the spiritual light. The better your concentration is, the louder and more distinct the sound will become.

Experience the vibration of this sound expanding until it includes your whole head, your whole body, and ever-expanding volumes of space surrounding you. By this means, you will tune into the music of the spheres, and your whole being will become a receiver and transmitter of the harmonious rhythm of the universe. When you open your eyes after such a meditation, you may find your surroundings filled with blazing light.

In the beginning, the sound current may appear in one localized part of the head; most likely in one of the ears. You should not listen to the sound current in the left ear because this is psychically harmful. Listen to it in the right ear, and gradually try to move it to the center and top of the brain. From this vertex center, known as the Sahasraram Chakra (whose associated gland is the pineal body), allow the vibration of the sound current to fill the entire head and to then expand beyond the head into the surrounding space. This is one of the classical methods and can lead to the highest type of experience.


Meditation on the Light in the Head
To practice this form of meditation, close your eyes, and observe your inner field of vision by focusing the attention at the point in the center of the forehead, just slightly above the point between the eyebrows. This location is called the Third Eye Center or Agna Chakra. It is related to the faculty of clairvoyant vision. The physical manifestation or anchorage point for the Agna Chakra is the pituitary gland, which is located in a bony cradle in back of the root of the nose.

When you close your eyes, look steadily into your inner field of vision until light, color and patterns begin to appear. (This is looking with your attention and not with the physical eyes which should remain relaxed.) When most people close their eyes, initially they see a black void, but by looking steadily into this void, various colors and patterns will begin to appear. When this happens, simply observe them with your full, undivided attention as if you were intently watching a movie. Then periodically focus all of your attention within the smallest point that you can see in the center of your field of vision, and pierce through that point. After you have done this, the light will again blaze forth from the point in a new burst of energy, and you will find yourself at a higher rate of vibration or plane of energy. With continued practice of this form of meditation, you will become immersed in a blazing sea of light; and you will become a center from which that spiritual power is radiated.

By concentrating the attention in the Sahasraram Chakra or Thousand-Petalled Lotus, located at the top of the head, an experienced meditator can release an even more powerful radiation of light and spiritual energy. (It may take more work to activate this chakra; the beginner can get more immediate results by looking through the Agna Chakra or Third Eye Center.) The Sahasraram Wheel is the highest chakra; called the "Doorway to the Infinite" and the Brahmarandra or Hole of Brahma, it is the most powerful and spiritual of all the centers that can be awakened in man (with the possible exception of the Heart Chakra which is considered by some yogis to be of equal importance). When the Sahasraram Chakra is fully activated in a perfected yogin or saint, the white fire of Cosmic Kundalini descends upon him and blends with his own rising kundalini force, and the white light of spirituality radiates for miles around.


Meditation on the Chakras
By focusing the attention on various locations within the body, where the chakras are located, it is possible to activate these chakras and facilitate an increased flow of energy between the higher planes of energy and the subtle body, thus releasing an increased amount of spiritual energy. There are seven major chakras in the body which link together the physical body and the subtle energy bodies.

The chakras are revolving vortexes of energy which act as mechanisms for the absorption and radiation of spiritual energy. In the physical body, they relate to glands and major nerve centers. In the etheric body, they are like wheels with flower petals which are created by a sort of stroboscopic effect of the revolving energy. The etheric chakra flowers are connected by a sort of funnel-like stem to the gland or nerve plexus to which they belong. In the astral body, the chakras appear as whirlpools of energy, like the eddies in a stream of water or in a basin of water when the stopper is pulled out. In the mental body, they appear as converging lines of light.

The Muladora Chakra is at the base of the spine and is the seat of the Kundalini Fire Wheel when aroused, which in the advanced stages of yoga, rises up through the center of the spine and activates the highest chakra in the cerebral cortex called the Sahasraram Chakra.

The next chakra is called the Sacral Center or the Swadisthana Chakra. It relates to the adrenal glands and is related to the absorption of pranic vitality, which is in the air. The air absorbs this energy from solar radiation. There seems to be some differences of opinion between various texts as to whether the Muladora Chakra or Swadisthana Chakra relates most directly to the sexual functions.

After the Swadisthana Chakra, comes the Manipara or Solar Plexus Center which relates to the digestive functions and vitality of the astral desires and feeling emotions.

Next in ascending order is the Anahala or Heart Chakra, which relates to the source of spiritual energy and the higher emotions of love, altruism and benevolence.

The next chakra is the Vishudha or Throat Chakra, which is related to the thyroid gland and has to do with the power of speech and relates to mantra yoga and the capacity for artistic creativity. This center is activated by chanting and singing.

Next we have the Agna Chakra, which is located on the forehead, just slightly above and between the eyebrows. It is related to the pituitary gland and the subcortical areas of the brain. The Agna Chakra has to do with the higher mind faculties of clairvoyance, scientific reasoning, willing and philosophical thought. Development of the chakra awakens the ability to see and regulate astral and mental forces on the superphysical level.

Above the Agna is the Sahasraram Chakra or Thousand-Petalled Lotus, which is related to the pineal gland and the cerebral cortex. It's located at the top of the head. It relates to the sound current and the faculty of clairvoyant hearing, and is the most spiritual of all the chakras. When this chakra is fully developed, union with God-consciousness is possible, and Illumination takes place.

By focusing the attention in any one of the chakras, the lower overtones of the concentration of consciousness in that location activates that chakra and increases the energy flow in it, making possible a conscious entry into the superphysical planes of energy. Meditation on the first three chakras, namely the Muladora Chakra, the Sacral Chakra and the Solar Plexus Chakra is not recommended because this can arouse lower emotions and sexual passions. This can allow entry to undesirable astral influences and cause psychological unbalance. It is better to work with the Heart Center, the Agna Chakra, and the Sahasraram Chakra because these are the most directly related to the unfoldment of superconsciousness; and when awakened, will automatically develop the lower chakras by changing the glandular balance of the body and by circulating new pranic forces through the energy channels or nodies of the etheric body as well as purifying and strengthening the astral and mental bodies.

The hormones which the pituitary gland secretes, regulates the other glands in the body including the thymus gland, the thyroid gland, the adrenal gland and the sex glands as well as other glands. Once the pituitary gland is fully activated by the development of the Agna Chakra, all other glands are brought into proper chemical balance, thus helping to properly develop and raise the vibratory rate of all the lower chakras.

In Kundalini Yoga, an advanced yoga practice, concentration is done on the Muladora Chakra at the base of the spine in order to arouse the Kundalini Fire and bring it through the center of the spine to activate the highest chakra, the Sahasraram, at the top of the head. If however, the Kundalini Fire is prematurely aroused and not properly directed, great damage can be done to the nervous system and to the etheric body. If the Kundalini force is not properly directed upwards, it can revert downward causing abnormal sexual desire and perversion. Therefore, arousing the Kundalini should only be done in advanced stages of yoga when a great deal of purification of the subtle bodies has taken place and soul control over the personality is well established.


The Combination of Mantra Yoga and Meditation
When doing Om chanting or other mantras, it is possible to activate various chakras. By chanting at varying pitches, you will make different tissues in the body vibrate, thus stimulating the nerve centers and the glandular centers, and activating the chakras associated with them. With a bit of experimentation, you will find which tones or pitches vibrate which parts of the body and which chakras. When this has been ascertained, then chant with full force while meditating in the chakra you wish to activate.

The sound waves create vibration patterns in the etheric, astral and mental atmosphere, which you can develop the ability to see. They are multicolored and very intricate and beautiful, sometimes forming geometrical patterns and mandalas made out of threads of light. Music will have a similar effect. Just listen to the music during a psychedelic session while observing the inner light through the Agna Chakra or Third Eye Center. Then watch the color patterns change and develop with the music. Classical music and Indian ragas are especially good for this purpose.


Meditation on the I Am Principle
In the practice of this form of meditation, consciousness is made to dwell upon itself. When properly and successfully practiced, this is the most powerful and highest form of meditation. While focusing in the Heart Chakra or in the Sahasraram Chakra at the crown of the head, place the attention on the attention itself. If any distractions come in the form of thoughts and perceptions of a specific nature, then immediately concentrate your attention upon that consciousness in you which is the experiencer of those thoughts and perceptions. Even the manifestation of spiritual light and sound current should be regarded in this way. The sound current and the light are merely the lower overtone manifestations of the pure consciousness upon which you are meditating. The more you hold your attention steady in concentration upon itself, the more the light, sound current, electrical sensations in the body, feelings of magnetic force, sensations of weightlessness, etc. will manifest automatically. If, however, you allow your attention to become distracted by any of these manifestations, then you will be subject to the limitations of the thing by which you have been distracted; and the focusing of pure consciousness will be interrupted so that all of the things which are the lower overtones and by-products of the focusing of pure consciousness, possibly including the psychic manifestation which distracted your attention, will also stop. Seek ye first the kingdom of pure consciousness and all of these other psychic manifestations will be added unto you.

Placing the attention on the attention itself can be done in any location in space since pure consciousness, which is the same as God, is an omnipresent principle. In the beginning, it will be found easiest to do this in one of the chakras, preferably the Heart Chakra or the Sahasraram or Head Center. The Agna Chakra or Third Eye Center located on the brow, can also be used with good results, but it is better to use the Sahasraram Chakra if you can activate it.

With practice of this form of meditation, your pure consciousness will experience itself as a blazing sea of white light extending infinitely in every direction. The pure consciousness itself is crystalline and colorless, but it generates the white light which is the simultaneous presence of all of the colors which are the specific lower overtone rates of vibration, which the pure consciousness generates.

The placing of the attention on the attention itself in a specific chakra, brings about a condition in that chakra, in which its vibration structure is harmonically and geometrically aligned in all of its planes of manifestation or rates of vibration. This creates common node points in the inner plane structure of the chakra. Vibrations of different frequencies and different wavelengths all begin and end together at these common node points. This is made possible by the fact that the wavelengths of the various vibrations and their frequencies all bear exact mathematical rates to each other, like the notes in a musical scale. Any vibrations which are out of phase in terms of their spatial distribution or vibratory rates are automatically canceled out by interfering with other waves at the common node points. Where several wavelengths, both short and long, begin and end their cycles together, it is possible to slip through the dimensions and to experience the higher spiritual rates of vibration and approach the Atman, which moves with infinite speed. At these common node points, the exchange of energy from one octave or plane to another, also becomes possible, allowing a flow of energy from the higher dimensions into the lower dimensions. Thus, a transmutation of those vibration patterns which exist on the lower dimensions into the higher ones becomes possible. The soul is then able to control the personality structure, making it a fit instrument of spiritual expression in the affairs of men. This form of meditation develops one-pointed concentration.

Since the use of psychedelic drugs stimulates the flow of a great amount of energy from higher planes into the lower planes, any thought and emotion patterns created during a psychedelic session are strongly imprinted and have a great deal of energy incorporated into their vibration structure. These thought and emotional patterns then act as powerful unconscious conditioning factors in our daily lives. It is therefore of the utmost importance that constructive imprints are made during a psychedelic session. Remaining in control of the attention can ensure this.

In this regard, I would like to give a few final points of advice. Try not to focus the attention from one thing to another too quickly. Stay with a thought or meditation process until it is complete. Don't panic if frightening visions or hallucinations occur. Fear will make you concentrate on them all the more and thus feed them with the power of your attention. Remain detached and place your attention on that consciousness within you which is experiencing the hallucinations. Remember at all times that God exists in you in the form of your own power of attention and that power when properly directed, will control all lesser forces.

It is believed by some researchers that psychedelic drugs stimulate the secretion process of the pineal and pituitary glands, which are known by yogis and occultists to be related to the Sahasraram and Agna chakras (which are also called the Thousand-Petalled Lotus and the Third Eye Center). This stimulation increases the flow of energy between the etheric body and the physical body. It may be that psychedelic drugs place the cells of the physical body under stress so that they must speed up their activity to overcome the stress. When the cells increase their activity, their vibratory rates increase, thus putting them harmonically in resonance with the higher rates of vibration on the subtle superphysical planes of energy. This process makes possible the expression of a higher level of consciousness through the glandular system, brain and nervous system.

The increased physical cellular activity requires more work and activity in the etheric body to sustain the stepped-up activity of the physical body. The vibratory rate of the etheric body is thus accelerated, requiring an increased activity in the astral body to sustain and remain harmonically in tune with the etheric body. The increased vibratory rate of the astral body requires a stepped-up activity and increased vibratory rate in the mental body. This in turn more fully tunes the mental body in to the power, love and wisdom of the soul. Thus an alignment of the whole being on all planes is facilitated, and a more rapid exchange of pattern imprints and energy between the various octaves or planes of energy takes place.

It may also be that psychedelic drugs have a chemical structure such that they are perfectly in resonance with the lower overtones of certain key frequencies in the higher planes and can therefore act as a point of entry for the reflection of these vibrations in the physical body. They would therefore help to create common node points in the vibration structure of several different dimensions.

Not only is the love, wisdom and power of the soul brought to bare in the life of the personality, but the fine organization of the physical body, the etheric, astral and mental bodies, which have been produced by the evolutionary process, are harmonically reflected and preserved in the soul. While the physical body is the least permanent, the densest and composed of the substance of the lowest plane, it is in terms of evolution, the newest and most highly organized in terms of structure. Therefore, a complete replica of it made out of the energy substance of the subtle planes, is an evolutionary gain for the soul and subtle bodies. When the physical body is sufficiently vivified by the influx of energy from the higher dimensions, it begins to create higher overtone reflections of itself in the akasha or energy substance of the higher planes, and thus its pattern is preserved and made immortal.

Therefore, when properly used, psychedelic drugs help to speed up the evolutionary process. When man has evolved to superman, he will, under the direction of the superconscious mind in accordance with God's will as it manifests in evolution, take an active part in the molding and directing of the evolution of the mineral, vegetable, and animal kingdoms. Even today, his vibrations intimately affect for good or bad, those kingdoms in nature.
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Alcohol used as an Entheogen...



ENTHEOGEN
theo=god, spirit
gen=creation

Substances which generate god or spirit within. Peyote or psilocybin mushrooms are traditional examples of this.

(from Entheogens and the Future of Religion)


psychoactive sacrament; a plant or chemical substance taken to occasion spiritual or mystical experience
hallucinogen; psychedelic




I believe alcohol can be used this way , although it is difficult to
control and will easily slide into an experience that you think
is the complete opposite of your intent. Purging has it's place
and many lessons to teach - but I am talking about the moderate
use of alcohol as a tool to enhance spiritual understanding ... in this case.

In one particular example , which occured 2 summers ago. I was on the beach (Lake Michigan) with my son who was born that June. It was late September. The water was the warmest it had been all year. I felt alot of stress and anxiety that I didn't want to feel at that time,
knowing these moments pass quickly into the past and as everyone warns us , accelerate as we grow older.

I ingested (hahahh - doesn't that make it sound more spiritual) about 4 ounces of vodka mixed with Gatorade. I am not trying to imply here that the Gatorade was a factor , but it sure did taste good. I noticed within a few minutes , that I was much more open to just being there at the waters edge with my son. Holding him up in the cool breeze while feeling the water swirling around my legs. The sun was going down and creating endless variations of orange , red , purple and yellow that merged from the ground into the sky with no apparent seams. And suddenly , I didn't feel at all apart from any of this. While my wife held the baby , I swam out into the color , and for the first time that year , I was free again.

When I look at pictures of him that day in the orange glow of the last few minutes of one day that oassed like every other day. I can still feel the love of letting go , the release of feeling the need to be somewhere or have something or understand everything.

Post if you have a story of alcohol or any tool for that matter revealing your self to your self....
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Joel (Jim) Wrote:
I have experienced that although Entheogens (most of them) are excellent and easy ways to experence the 2nd Attention, that they also HINDER the ability of achieving 2nd Attention Awarness on my own.



For example, smoking Cannabis (which I consider an Entheogen) will block my ability to achieve lucid dreaming states or astral projection experiences, until my nervous system has purged the toxin from my system.



Anyone else with similar ideas or experiences? Or even the opposite?






I'm not a huge fan of using chemical drugs (although I have always enjoyed a good MDMA/DOB/LSD trip), and haven't partaken of any of those in a couple of years, but I do favor using natural entheogens such as marijuana, mushrooms, and peyote (which I still haven't had the pleasure of trying). I consider them "Teacher Plants"... I use the plant as a door-opener, so to speak. I'll smoke up or eat some mushrooms and then meditate or do some other excersize to reach states or perceptions I've never experienced before, and then spend the next little while learning how to duplicate the experience or reach that state again without the plant.

Drugs tend to make your neurons fire differently, so to speak, opening up synaptic pathways that can then be travelled again when in your usual state of consciousness. Research has shown that the more often you think a certain thought or recall a specific memory, the stronger the related synaptic pathways become, which is why it can be difficult to break old patterns of thought and behavior. Teacher Plants are one way of "reframing" your thoughts, so to speak, giving you a different perspective on things. I have found that it can be very valuable to have both an audio recording device and a pad of paper handy when doing this, as it can be difficult to recall or recapture certain insights the next day.

Personally, I find my physical sensitivity to energy is heightened when I smoke cannabis. If I do any Reiki or Ain Sophic healing work while under the influence, I can feel nuances that sometimes elude me otherwise. I also seem to become more perceptive on the clairvoyant side, although I've found it's sometimes difficult to be able to communicate clearly to others what I'm perceiving in that state. I never partake if I know I'm going to be working on anyone in any manner, mind you, but there have been occasions where like-minded friends and I have experimented together.

Mushrooms are to me a very personal experience, in that I feel much more connected to the earth and to all living things, which sometimes allows me a much clearer perspective on what's happening in my own life. I find I have a lot of revelations about my situation and my actions and motivations within them. Also, I have this strange tendency to want to dance around naked every time I do them. No one needs to see that. *grin*

Anyone had any direct experience with Peyote? That's one plant I've never had the chance to experience yet, and I'm curious to see how other spiritually-inclined people have found it to affect them.

~David the Catalyst
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Excellent post .... Catalyst ... that captures the essence of what I wanted to say to Joel .... that sometimes entheogens can be used as stepping stones , to experience a window that looks out over new possibilities ... but it is up to us to make those probable worlds real by focusing intent in our everyday worlds.

You may not dream as much immediately following MJ use , but what if you harnessed the changed frequency of the energy during the experience to tell yourself that you will be moving towards more vivid dreams and meditations in the near future .... visualize the change occuring .... expect it to happen..... then take a break from the smoke and see how you are doing ......

The classic saying 'Trip to live , don't live to trip' applies here.

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CHRIST AND THE SACRED MUSHROOM



By DAVID YORK

CHRIST AND THE SACRED MUSHROOM at www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com

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Cannabis Sativa (better than sativa for regular use because its more cerebral and energetic / less mind clouding / although indica can be fun too), psychedelic mushrooms, lsd (only of the best quality, unfortunately doesn't come around all that often), and dmt of course, being by far the strongest, & not for everybody.

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Not to forget mdma!
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there was this guru named bawa who started a fellowship in philadelphia. supposedly b/c in the end, philladelphia will be saved thanks to some prayer by william penn. one of my good friends belongs to the group and doesn't drink, so i asked her why. according to bawa, one drop of alcohol affects your consciousness for 7 years. i found that very interesting. the only other time i've heard 7 years in relation to the body was in waking life when they said you have a new set of cells every seven years. if the body is holographic, and our consciousness is our being then that would make sense.
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This is all such great information! Thank you everyone!!
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Thanks butterfly , I didn't have that link either .... as far as Calea Zacatechichi goes ... I have a large supply of it , and have tried on two different occassions to consume the tea....... you will need great and unbending resolve to accomplish this task! We are talking about one of the most bitter tastes you can imagine.

If you manage to choke down a full serving , you will probably have an altered state just from the intense sensation of drinking it!

I am still curious , and I know they recommend a cup of tea and smoking it at the same time , but the smoke is also very harsh without some kind of water cooled device.

There are lots of reports on Erowid of people finding some effect with it though.

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