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I have been having OBE's since I was about 16 or so ..... and in my personal reality - the worlds I travel in are more like dream worlds than the world of the first attention ..... in other words ... I don't see anything that a waking person would agree with or participate in consensus reality in any way ... so how do I define the difference between an Out of Body experience and a Lucid Dream , since both our essentially the state of our waking consciousness being involved in a non-ordinary reality ..... well ... .for me , the OBE's have always been initiated by a strong wave of energy .... Robert Monroe talks about this wave too , and many of you who have ever been sleep paralyzed or had an OBE will know what I am talking about ..... the waves of energy come flowing through me , I am always in bed , and I have to focus my intent to get 'out' where as in the lucid dream , I just all of the sudden realize that I am dreaming and the adventure begins..... but anyway ... i think my original point was to mention that lately the frequency of the waves of energy has increased .... it is a higher pitch ..... and since it is new to me again , I have fear .... the energy feels strong enough at the time to split you open literally ..... and I know from my experience with the low frequency waves , that they are a door or a window into another world ... but first I need to get past the fear.

OBE's , Lucid Dreams , NDE's and all ... they are just labels ... and you can use whatever labels serve you best in describing your experiences .... I would call it an OBE ...

In my personal experience , I almost always have a second body ... but it is more like an energy body ... I have projected awareness out a few times without the body , but usually I would be travelling in the energy body ...as consciousness has a habit of wanting to create a body for us.

Your experience sounds amazing and reminds me of T.M. talking about 3 dimensional language.

we "travel" out of body for all of those things, dreams, Lucidity, obe, rv, etc....so i guess they all could be called "obe's" but when most use that term they think of the "realtime projections" (basically being a ghost in the physical world....low level projection, amazingly fun and easily verifyable too)

I have been floating around on other planes of existence since I was about 7 or 8 years old. My first lucid dream when I was about 7 involved a giant scorpian/demon that was attacking me. I looked around and realized that I was in a desert with a giant scorpian that was trying to eat me and I thought to myself wow how the hell did I get into this mess. And when I realized that I just appeared I said to myself well if this is just a dream that I can have anything I want. So I conjured a sword. And then proceeded to have fun kicking the living shit out of this giant moster who was playing on my fear. After that I started having lucid dreams off and on. Mostly it was when something attacked me and I remembered my inner strength. As for OBEs people have them all the time and dont realize what they are. What do you think day dreaming is? Suddenly your driving in the car and you realize you cant remember where you have been for the past few minutes and how you got to your destination. It is because you werent there at all. You were off exploring some other plane of existence. I used to do it in school alot too. I never could just sit around and listen to the boring stuff I didnt care about learning instead I would project out of my body and go somewhere that I could be learning. I was told a while ago that the fact I was not sleeping through the night and waking up feeling like someone slamed into me all the time was myself going to Astral School. My friend told me that my soul was going somewhere to remember who I was and knowledge I had forgotten. It was soon after that I started visually seeing my guides. They now float around me as little lights and each of them have names. Whenever I do anything they advise me through it. Sorry that kinda got off subject lol but the point is people have OBEs all the time they just need to see that they are having them.

Love and Light to you

L

I have had at least 1 lucid dream that I can remember. Lately I feel I can feel vibrations and energy as I lay in bed and relax so I can sleep. I wonder is that a pre cusor to astral projection? What ends up happening is my mind flashes images and then I fall asleep, I would really like to be outside my body though. Is there a way to progress in that direction?

abraxus, as you said...the energies are higher. i have had my own experiences with astral projection as of late...i have been able to accomplish that which was only once feasible under the influence of psylocybin.. i have had visits from those who possess the ability to astrally project....& have projected myself, as of late. the experiences have been of an intensity not known before, for as many have spoke of i have had obe's since i was a child...a direct result of being physically abused by my mother. it was my escape....and i have now come to realize the intensity of my own abilities....as they have grown immensely over the years, with awareness, focus, and intent. i have been so fearful to speak out loud...but as i stated, the past few weeks have been transformative beyond measure. that which i possess is more intense than i have ever imagined, as i have awakened to my natural ability as a channel. a channel for both the living who can astrally project and for the dead. just yesterday i picked up and held close to me my grandfather's blanket from world war II and i began to flash on a war scene & quickly i jerked away from the blanket, for somehow i felt it was going to when my poppop had been shot in the leg....i kinda freaked for a moment, for it was an entirely new experience. i sit now, bracing myself, knowing that the time has come to fully open that which lies within & without. i thank you for allowing me to share.

dRUNKaNDrOWDY Wrote:
I have had at least 1 lucid dream that I can remember. Lately I feel I can feel vibrations and energy as I lay in bed and relax so I can sleep. I wonder is that a pre cusor to astral projection? What ends up happening is my mind flashes images and then I fall asleep, I would really like to be outside my body though. Is there a way to progress in that direction?

----- For me , those waves of powerful energy are usually the beginning of an OBE - if Ichoose to go out .... sometimes the energy is so powerful I just lay still and feel it rushing from head to toes - If you can relax and let the energy build up , you can most iikely use it to propel yourself out - all you may need to go to the next level is a strong intention to follow through next time you feel the vibrations. When you lay down to go to sleep at night , you could tell yourself - 'Soon the energy vibrations will come andI will travel out of my body' - but its not really the words that matter - it is the intent.