I don't know why I can't post the list of 89 questions, but everytime I try it takes me to the forum homepage. Someone else feel free to bring the questions over from my message board. For anyone who wants to answer the questions please just bring the question over to this board and try to answer.

I look forward to the discussion.

Here is the list of questions.

mike, sapient, and rook are my holy trinity.

i read through the entire list of questions and all i can say is keep up the good work, guys.

Good job, Sapient. I actually had a seperate list that had 99 questions on it.

I found a dead man, thanks for the kind words.

Greensanz, excellent! I wonder if it had a problem with it being the starting post. Did you have to alter it at all?

Speakofthedevil, can you link me to the list of 99 questions?

jasonanthonyWrote:
4. When the believer gets to Heaven, how can Heaven be utter bliss when people they love and care about are burning in Hell ? - The Infidel Guy - [Note: Some say God erases your memories of them, but if God erases your memory, you as Mr. Joe /Jane Smoe ceases to exist.]

The souls in heaven experience pure joy; there is no remorse. They do not think, “Oh, my poor brother was condemned to hell.” They see truth and reality as God does, and delight in His perfect judgment. The Revelation tells us, Rv 21:4 “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away.” Jesus told us, Mt 16:27 “The Son of man is to come with His angels in the glory of His Father, and then He will repay every man for what he has done.” St. Paul confirms it. 1 Cor 3:8 “Each shall receive his wages according to his labor.” In heaven there is no sorrow, pain or sickness, but complete unending joy. We will know our family and friends, as well as the angels and saints in heaven. Eph 2:19 “You are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God.”





Good enough???

not for me. the idea of brainwashing doesn't really sound like paradise. i would prefer being in hell, amongst my brothers, with my memory fully intact.

Brian SapientWrote:
I look forward to the discussion.

I don't have time right now to answer each question but I can give a general answer to all of the questions.

1. I think that your list of questions is interesting and many of them are good and logical questions that perhaps many Christians overlook.

2. It seems that all of your Questions assume a literal interpretation of the Bible. Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation. Therefore many of your questions do not apply to those Christians. For example: the questions about the Cheribums in the Book of Gensis pose no logical problem for non-literal bible interpretations.
In fact, literalist Christians have been a minority throughout time. Only relatively recently in the U.S. has there been an uprising of fundamentalist/evangelical Christians believing in a literal interpretation. Even the Catholic church, for example, has stated that their Beliefs are not in contention with the theory of Evolution.

What say you?

Truth in Pop Culture: Surfing the AbyssWrote:

[t]Brian SapientWrote:
I look forward to the discussion.

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I don't have time right now to answer each question but I can give a general answer to all of the questions.

1. I think that your list of questions is interesting and many of them are good and logical questions that perhaps many Christians overlook.

2. It seems that all of your Questions assume a literal interpretation of the Bible. Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation. Therefore many of your questions do not apply to those Christians. For example: the questions about the Cheribums in the Book of Gensis pose no logical problem for non-literal bible interpretations.
In fact, literalist Christians have been a minority throughout time. Only relatively recently in the U.S. has there been an uprising of fundamentalist/evangelical Christians believing in a literal interpretation. Even the Catholic church, for example, has stated that their Beliefs are not in contention with the theory of Evolution.

What say you?

You should have a literal interpretation of the Bible. Is God's word not flawless?

Ezekiel 24:14 "I the Lord have spoken it, and thus it will be done; neither will I repent, neither will I go back."

jasonanthonyWrote:
2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

GEN 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

this is the symbolic entrance to paradise. the angel is guarding heaven. You may never see that angel.

Heaven is perfect happiness with God in the next life. St. Paul tells us 1 Cor 2:9 “No eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love Him.” The greatest happiness of heaven is the beatific vision, seeing God face to face as He really is for all eternity.



“By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has opened heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ.”

While I thought you did a decent job on number 1, number 2 you seem to be lacking in your response. The evidence of the "flaming sword" is still lacking, you quoted how nobody could see the angel, but not the evidence for the sword.


Now you quote 1 Corinthians 2:9 in where we learn that no eye has seen God face to face. How do you reconcile that with the contradiction that Jacob saw God face to face?

Genesis 32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

i found a dead man in a car at mcdonaldsWrote:
mike, sapient, and rook are my holy trinity.



i read through the entire list of questions and all i can say is keep up the good work, guys.

can i be your mary magdolin?

Brian SapientWrote:

[t]jasonanthonyWrote:
2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

GEN 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

this is the symbolic entrance to paradise. the angel is guarding heaven. You may never see that angel.

Heaven is perfect happiness with God in the next life. St. Paul tells us 1 Cor 2:9 “No eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love Him.” The greatest happiness of heaven is the beatific vision, seeing God face to face as He really is for all eternity.



“By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has opened heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ.”

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While I thought you did a decent job on number 1, number 2 you seem to be lacking in your response. The evidence of the "flaming sword" is still lacking, you quoted how nobody could see the angel, but not the evidence for the sword.


Now you quote 1 Corinthians 2:9 in where we learn that no eye has seen God face to face. How do you reconcile that with the contradiction that Jacob saw God face to face?

Genesis 32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Haha, I was just shuffling furiously though my notes to find these two verses.

Speak Of The Devil!Wrote:

[t]Truth in Pop Culture: Surfing the AbyssWrote:

[t]Brian SapientWrote:
I look forward to the discussion.

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I don't have time right now to answer each question but I can give a general answer to all of the questions.

1. I think that your list of questions is interesting and many of them are good and logical questions that perhaps many Christians overlook.

2. It seems that all of your Questions assume a literal interpretation of the Bible. Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation. Therefore many of your questions do not apply to those Christians. For example: the questions about the Cheribums in the Book of Gensis pose no logical problem for non-literal bible interpretations.
In fact, literalist Christians have been a minority throughout time. Only relatively recently in the U.S. has there been an uprising of fundamentalist/evangelical Christians believing in a literal interpretation. Even the Catholic church, for example, has stated that their Beliefs are not in contention with the theory of Evolution.

What say you?[/t]


You should have a literal interpretation of the Bible. Is God's word not flawless?

Ezekiel 24:14 "I the Lord have spoken it, and thus it will be done; neither will I repent, neither will I go back."

Flawlessness is not equivalent to literalism. The Bible is flawless. Literalism is merely a particualr mechanism of Biblical interpretation. There are many ways of interpreting and understanding the Bible. It is not the only way of reading and interpreting the Bible.

The Bible is flawless in the sense that it represents the absolute word of God. However, mankind often makes mistakes in understanding and interpreting the Bible. This is why there are so many denominations of Christianity each with a diferent understanding of the Bible.