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Abraxus
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Jul 2, 2005 8:53 AM
"In the universe there is an unmeasurable, indescribable force which sorcerers call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link. Sorcerers, or warriors, are concerned with discussing, understanding, and employing that connecting link. They are especially concerned with cleaning it of the numbing effects brought about by the ordinary concerns of their everyday lives. Sorcery at this level could be defined as the procedure of cleaning one's connecting link to intent."
~ The Power Of Silence, Carlos Castaneda ~
http://www.nagual.net/
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Abraxus
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Sep 5, 2005 10:28 AM
If you really care about the questions this group raises , this is probably one of the most important topics ... of course that is according to my dream - and your dream may be different .... but who hasn't struggled with intent? If you have had moments of clarity when your intent was well focused and easily manifested into 'reality' ... tell us about them...
If you are having problems harnessing intent , let's talk about it ...
I know I am having problems and it is difficult to verbalize exactly what the problem is ..... i seem to constantly be approaching the state where realization of intent is immenent , and then backing off right before the meeting of desire and action take place .... do I know why? I am not sure ... and there could be the power of people coming together as a community .....
Outer space astronauts have a whole community to support them in their travels .... a budget , a plan , a team backing them .... a mission control center -
Why is it so often inner space travelers must go alone .... not knowing if anyone is really there to back them up?
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Miike
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Sep 5, 2005 9:02 PM
Perception of intent is probably one of the most valuable assets one can possess. If people could see through actions to intentions this world would be a way better place. I am a firm believer in placing myself in other people's shoes.
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Abraxus
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Sep 6, 2005 4:38 PM
I don't mean that our only choice is to go alone ... it seems that we do get some support from books , friends , teachers , and groups like this .... but we have to build those support systems even stronger , because society as a general rule is not working to support inner travel or exploration of the psyche - in fact , governments and institutions openly work against it.
Writers like Castenada and Ruiz , when they talk about Intent , I believe they are using it as a stronger word than desire , hope , wish , etc. So there are many things you probably want to accomplish , and you may even take steps towards them , but you might know at times that the full power of your intent is not focused on the goal - When you read the quote above , then , consider what types of things could be blocking your link to intent?
As far as the intentions of others , I think it would be very difficult to try to interpret what someone's 'Intent' is - especially when it can be so elusive even in ourselves. People will say 'Oh , well , I meant to do that' - or ... 'what I was really hoping was ..... ' - but most people I know have some difficulty focusing intent.
This becomes easy to see in an example like this :
You decide you want to explore your dream world more ... so , you read a few books and come up with a plan to at least keep a dream journal and do some visualizations at night , reminding yourself to remember your dreams .... a few days go by and you realize you haven't worked on the dream journal , and most nights , by the time you hit the matress - you are so tired , you realy don't put your heart into the visualizations ... and you don't feel in that moment like the pursuit of dreams as quite as important ..... zzzzzz off to sleep you go .... so in this example , did you really Intend to start dreaming? Castenada's opinion was that an Intent carries with it the power to make everything else needed happen - and that we can only intend when we have enough personal power to carry it out -
So this might come back to a discussion of personal power. Some of us have not accumulated enough , some of us are leaking it out , and some just haven't worried too much about how full their personal power tank is.
Oh yeah .... 'Contact' was a movie where an entire community got behind the concept of inner travel (until they realized that is what it was.)
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Sep 6, 2005 8:12 PM
I have a question. I tend to walk into rooms and have things fall on the ground out of no where with no wind blowing in the air. Things also disappear on me only to reappear in a place i've already looked. So the question...some things we do with no intent at all if we focus on it will we be naturally inclined or have more power on doing the things that we do naturally with no intent? Or do you think that it's just coincidence or some other thing?
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Sep 7, 2005 3:50 AM
Anthony Wrote:
I have a question. I tend to walk into rooms and have things fall on the ground out of no where with no wind blowing in the air. Things also disappear on me only to reappear in a place i've already looked. So the question...some things we do with no intent at all if we focus on it will we be naturally inclined or have more power on doing the things that we do naturally with no intent? Or do you think that it's just coincidence or some other thing?
I don't think there is any 'TRUE' answer in this case ..... whatever works for you is true ..... it could be argued that you don't do anything without intent , that your conscious mind is not the only player in the game of whether or not you have intent ..... if your inner self is made of up many layers , and you are not always in communication with those layers , for example our dreaming mind - which goes on countless advetures every night without ever telling us about them ... well then , you could intend a certain kind of experience without being consciously aware of it.
Or , this kind of thing could happen to everyone , but because you have drawn attention to it in your mind , and it is part of your belief system that there might be something going on that goes beyond 'coincidence' you are more aware of such events or we could say , you filter them out less than someone who does not have this in their worldview.
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Sep 8, 2005 6:25 AM
it's kind of weird...yesterday I asked my friend to pick me up any book from Carlos Castaneda from the book store and he asked which one and gave me a list of the titles. I got The Magical Passes and it talks about intent in that book as well.
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Sep 8, 2005 8:44 AM
Intent is a risky thought in my eyes. It really depends on where the intent originates. Don't take any of this to heart but I will spell out what was triggered in my mind when I read all this and associated it to my current situation. My intent was to take something so new and fresh to my life and turn it into what I wanted it to be. now true intent you would beleive might take it's methods and allow you to let things be. let them happen and that the intnt within you is what created things to be presented to you in such a way. Now the intent I had was to take this and make it what I wanted it to be I think looking back. I wnated what was jsut right to be something else. to taint it and make it less valuable.. beaus I was not about to think I could stand next to something I felt was jjust right. So I had to make it less then it was to make it attainable. In turn I took my intent out of fear and ego and allowed it to almost strip me of what I had found so dear to me. My intent through ego made me loose myself.. whereas luuckily for me my spirits intent stepped in at just the right time and saved me.. pulling me from the jaws of life and allowing me to walk away with myself intact along with the thrilling new lessons that had been brought about. So here I stand split between the intents of my war. I sit and write as the battle continues.. atleast now I ahve found my third person seat to allow myself to watch as emotion and mind stampede one another.
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Sep 9, 2005 7:41 AM
Now take out all the duality and what was your true intent? Imagine that although in our minds we seem divided , we were really one .... what was your single , most clear intent - and how was it manifested?
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Sep 9, 2005 8:38 AM
To be loved in return. Masking the intent of fear from the otehr side and side stepping all things that would create a wave. I was going to make it perfect no matter what it took. even getting stepped on repeatedly. Once confidence is gone... You grasp at any control that you can get. Once control is relinquished.. confidence exudes all .
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Sep 17, 2005 8:31 AM
Perhaps you did make it perfect , only the perfection was not what you expected or wanted ..... but more like whatever the universe wanted from you.
Or perhaps in trying to obtain perfection , you were filtering out aspects of what it really was .... because it couldn't always fit into the spaces you had made for it ....
I know so little about what you went through ...so I am just throwing out possible ideas .... if they are too heavy , let them sink to the bottom , or be like a child and see how many times you can skip them if you can throw them at the right angle.
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Sep 17, 2005 7:54 PM
My life has become lately the ability to skip stones. To take in each account of the ripples that scatter after one another. I beleive everyone knows exactly what I am/was going through just at different levels. I ignored this lesson of vulnerability and this was the final method in which to spread the knowledge within myself before it was gone. Yes it is a painful one but it comes with an uncountable number of benefits. I know I willingly walked into this knowing what was to come and I held my head high eyes open and spirit read as I collided with the inevitable. Now I walk away torn and shattered but taking hte lessons nad regrowing what it means to be me.
Acceptance leads to spiritual awareness amongst the casual standings of this 3rd dimension.
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Sep 18, 2005 7:44 AM
I've had the same kind of thoughts, Abraxus, and I'm sort of between minds on the subject right now. Many times I have tried to focus my intent and manifest some kind of event or opportunity in my life, only to have it appear in a very different form than I envisioned it, or not at all. Other times I don't even try, and things just happen, much like the guy above talked about. For example:
There are times when I'm nearly broke, and need cash. So, I'll walk to the store with the intent of buying one scratch ticket and winning, even if it was only ten bucks. Usually, it doesn't work. Then there are times like a couple of weeks ago, I bought a ticket on a hunch, scratched it, and once again there was nothing. I put it aside and finished the sub I'd bought, picked up the garbage, and was about to throw the ticket in the trash when I glanced at it again and TADA!, suddenly it was a winner and I got ten bucks. Go figure.
I've been trying to reframe my expectations to some extent... I know that my inability to manifest consistently must come from some sort of inner block, fear, or insecurity, and I'm trying to work through all of them, so I figure it'll work out eventually. Meanwhile, I'm focusing my intent more on braoder ideas, rather than specific situations. For example; where before I used to intend specific outcomes, such as "I will get to this place by this time, and accomplish these three things, " I generalize, "I will be at the best possible place at the best possible time in order to best advance my soul's purpose, in line with my Highest Self." Sometimes it gets me where I thought i was going, other times I end up in completely unexpected territory. No matter what happens though, I always end up understanding afterwards why that outcome was probably for the best.
These days I'm spending a lot of time intending and a feeling of peace (inner and outer), a feeling of prosperity and the feeling of joy that comes from using wealth to create positive change and help others. I guess we'll see where it takes me...
~DtC
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Sep 25, 2005 10:31 AM
I have come to the conclusion that intent is getting all the variouse parts of me to focus on the same thing. And it is a prosess of getting this more and more correct. Interesting exorsize. Do the unbendable arm and say a love everything. the arm will not bend. Say you love everything but one person, and the arm will bend. Their are universal laws we must align our intent with to have more power with it. If we do it wrong it will have very little power. The duality of following Sacred law VS not following sacred or universal law with our intents. In aikido I am taught that the mind can only focus on one thing at a time, although it can do this very fast. If I focus on doing two things at once I loose ki extension. Not sure about the validity of this one yet. It doesn't seem to make sence to me with the concept of multiple attentions. Think about Water mind, Earth mind, Wind mind, Fire mind and Void mind. How could this effect entent. Working on that one. Let me know.
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